who poisoned henriette in versailles show

When we are far away, we must make him believe we are near. Our dear Henriette. Louis looks stunned too. However, the bible does say something about a man being expected to marry his brothers widow. IDK??? The two Ms still fight, and Louis approaches, holding the poker. My thoughts on that notorious Henrietta/Philippe scene in episode one is that it is entirely out-of-character for Philippe as we get to know him through the rest of the series. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. And the next shot is Louis in slow-mo, walking out. Henriette says to Philippe: Im sorry. AAAAAAHHH. Why should we fault Henriette for not ending her incestuous relationship with her brother-in-law, the king, but Philippe can be forgiven for continuing his homosexual relationship with the Chevalier? Arguably, as a man, it was within Philippes power to end his relationship easily enough whereas Henriette, a woman, would very possibly not have had that same power. Charming. throughout the show, we see Louis attempts to belittle and emasculate Philippe. We see Louis take what is rightfully and lawfully his his wife. Oh, and she was the one who prepared Henriettes tea. Montcourts eyes drop to Louis hand and suddenly he pulls a knife. The rape thing was upsetting. Henriette is Philippes wife, his property, his to do with as he wishes. Point 9: And again, who can blame her. Claudine tries to give her something for the pain but she wont swallow, her throat is closing up. Saint-Simon asserted that Louis was so thankful that his brother was innocent of the crime that he decided not to prosecute the perpetrators. And then Marchal throws Montcourts words back at him: and when we are the Kings enemy, we must make him believe we are his friend, right? Yessss. Henriette mentions the issues she has with the Chevalier. It is fascinating to compare Philippes two moments of deep anguish side by side: when the Chevalier was arrested, we saw his total and complete breakdown, the slow crumple of his expression from shock, to horror, to abject grief, then as he collapsed to his knees and rocked while he wept. she was the one who found it, actually. So that would perhaps put affair-with-sister-in-law a half tick closer to pardonable than homosexuality, which is wholly and completely condemned in the bible. So how could you be scared? He cares for her, but anytime he has to choose between Chevalier and her, he always choose the former. Im genuinely curious to know why you consider Philippe the victim and Henriette the traitor in that relationship. Although Lord Montagu accepted this, he had misgivings. My apartment has no pisspot and I do hate to urinate in the stairwells. The Chevalier: Never stopped you before. (teeheehee) They are interrupted by the Duc de Cassel (who is looking even rougher and more filthy than usual. While your character and scene analyses tend to differ quite a bit from my own (perhaps because of that?? I have some questions. Later on, we see the portrait back in Louiss chamber And there is also Dangerous Liaisons, but that is set in the 18th century. Philippe, despite their mutual loathing, was upset and distraught, so suspicion then fell to the absent Chevalier de Lorraine, who at the time was still in exile in Rome. [4] Why is his passion for the man he loves to be forgiven and Henriettes passion for the man she loves to be used against her? No context is provided about who he is, no indication he is married. Louis walks in and replies: because I ask him to do so. Ahhhhh-HA! Right. Its really sad, she could have been a great queen with Louis (he might not be faithful to her, but they will have live better than now), but the turns of fate, made her his brothers wife instead. Louis wakes to the sight of Henriette, blood down her gown and from her mouth, saying help me please. Even gravely ill, she still choses Louis over her husband. There could have been some anger involved without resorting to rape. Right away, I am feeling negative towards them both, and yes, judgey about Henriette. . I love these seemingly random yet distinct choices made by directors and production designers. Feel free to comment if any details are wrong. As her husband, Philippe, rushed to her bedside, Henriette chided him, Alas, Monsieur, it is a long time since you loved me, but this is unjust. Alerted, Henriettes lady-in-waiting watched the duke closely, but he showed no indication of guilt and every sign that he was distressed by his wifes condition. Josephine Wilkinson is an academic and author. The sudden onset of Henriettes illness, the severe pain and the short time between the onset of her symptoms and her death suggested to her contemporaries that she had been poisoned. Keeps your brothers power in check and offers a direct connection to England. Copyright 2023 History Today Ltd. Company no. In this respect, they are both on fairly equal footing. Such a beautiful moment, with Philippe building on their complex relationship, reminding Louis of a more simplistic time. Louis replies how else was I to keep you close. And, more importantly, Henriette NEVER RAPED Philippe. , Question, did real Louis also love Henriette, or was it unrequited? THIS. Is it any wonder she couldnt work up any concern over the possibility that her rapist might die in battle? Hi Jules, I must thank you for your detailed writeup of all ten episodes of Versailles. And the person either asserts himself or is subjugated to the will of others. FOCUS. Around 5pm on 29th June Henriette drank chicory water, then keeled over saying Ah! But not at the hands of Henriette, who really had little power in the situation. Even if I ignore the historical figures behind the show and what I know of their real lives, I cant ignore the historical setting or the social arena in which the show is played. Henriette has become seriously ill, it might be poison and she is the sister of the King of England. We see his offer to help refused time and time again. So thats why I believe that the most that Louis felt for Henriette was that he only loved her a little or to some degree but not enough. Does Henriette mind being used by Louis? She is in love with him and, as you say, it seems its been going on for a long time. The marriage was doomed from the start, because Henriette was already in love with Louis, it seems. He has poisoned all of them. To spare his feelings? I like the show, the actors and the plot. She was merely being used by the man she was in love with. I wonder what theyve got in store for us. Nup. Point 5: Ah, Henriettes remark about Philippes glorious death in battle. Nup. Ugh. Its my weekly sin, I confess, Im too addicted to this period to miss it. Louis smacks it away with the poker, Marchal steps in, Montcourt grabs a candlestick. Hi Laura! *IMAGERY KLAXON*, Next scene Marchal is riding furiously through the forest , no mood music, no sound, and he then bursts into Rohans rooms with guards, only to find the servant Marie on the floor, her wrist slashed with a knife. You mentioned the Charles Beaubrun painting of Louis & Philippewell I was noticing how this stunning piece travels around the palace in season one. I was merely pointing out how such treatment of his wife would hardly help warm her feelings towards him. I think Teresa is being a bit naive re. We see a quick shot of Montcourts body being dumped from a cart into the muddy swampiness, to join other rotting, decaying bodies. I find it interesting that Louis feels the need to add: she came to find me, to put the doubt on Montespans face to rest. Perfectly written line is delivered perfectly by perfect actor. Claudine Masson Fabien Marchal Henriette of England Henriette and Montespan Fabien and Sophie Isabella Braganza Claudine and Fabien Marie-Thrse and Montespan Versailles (series) Sophie de Clermont Philippe of France Henriette and Louis Philippe and Liselotte's Wedding Chevalier and Henriette Categories Henriette answered Montagu with a shrug: she did not know. Im leaving. Louis: You would defy me, even in this moment? Philippe: I know what this moment is. Louis steps to his brother and the camera frames them between the crossed pikes, a familiar movie making technique that focuses your eye solely on them, and also creates powerful imagery of two strong men, between weapons, taking opposite views. *Disclaimer* I do not own any of the audio or footage included in this. Only 4 of his children grew up, and even then, another died at 27. Such an angry outpouring from Louis, however, would have been out of character and no one else reported that he said any such thing. forgot to add the bit about similar shows. There was no indication of poisoning, so death was attributed to cholera morbus caused by corrupt and boiling bile, which had led to gangrene in the entrails and other parts of the lower abdomen. If Id been in her shoes, I think Id have given a flat affirmative. She could not affect change herself. Then she says: can you feel my skin? And reaches out first to Louis, then Philippe. His grip tightens on the poker, even as Montcourt looks actually shocked at that accusation. I think we see fairly good evidence in episode 7 that not only does Philippe support his brother, but that he is honestly frightened of the idea of running the country and has no desire to take his brothers place (his anger at being overlooked for the regency is more due to his hurt that no one supports him or takes him seriouslyhis experience all his life). This is clearly frustrating for Bontemps, this is against all protocol, and Bontemps is nothing if a creature who takes comfort (and even enjoys) the routine of protocol. Louis orders the Versailles garden to be brought into Henriette's deathbed scene. Guilt often manifests itself in an outward show of rage. (Historical note: it was forbidden for the King to be in the presence of death. I believe Louis did love her. Aaaaaand there we have the end of the episode and the end of Season One. Philippe strides in slow-mo through the corridors, arms swinging, hair bouncing, coat swaying and with a tight, determined expression on his face. In reality it only took a very short time for the plan to take full effect. Cassel leaves, then Montcourt walks away in the direction of Rohan who is discussing the Dauphins outing with a guard. The death of someone so young was often attributed to poison. Then Philippe walks out, still dressed in his nightshirt and robe, barefoot. Should Claudine be villified for showing up her father? thank you.. I am waiting eagerly for the second season and I really hope to see you write about it then. I was searching online for reviews/explanations of this show I was never educated about Frances history because I come from the other side of the globe and coincidentally stumbled upon your website, much to my delight. Bontemps: For you, Sire. Shine on Bontemps, you unsubtle diamond, you. Then Ep 8 miscarriage scene the painting is no longer on table. But Montespan kind of brushes it off with, Yes, I would do the same. She is hurt, nonetheless. To my observation, we do not know who messed with the bottles I was assuming it was Mike or Rohan, because the hand is gloved and we do not see the face. A letter from the King of Sweden has arrived, telling Louis he has agreed to break his alliance with the Dutch and support the French. Similarly, perforation of the gall bladder may have led to an excess of bile leaking into the peritoneum causing the corruption and gangrene reported by her doctors. He feels betrayed. They grew up knowing what their duty was as prince and princess. Both of them were in love with other people when they were forced to marry and they both were aware of that. Enriched my enjoyment of the show, and got a bit more educated on the courts history as well . Of his power, of his country. You said Ive said this before in comments. But lets compare: Henriette is jealous. But of course, she has no power to rid herself of him, so his death would be her only chance. needless to say, all my writing is copyright to me, so don't be a dick and steal it. Rohan is the Masked Man! Not Marchal! How can people not see Rohans calculating glances, his sly little looks? Henriette fulfills her duties with. Are you suggesting that she would have the power to deny the king even if she wanted to? The Angelique series of movies from the 60s are highly camp, and put Philippe in a terrible light, but they are funny. In Versailles, Madame de Clermont is running round like a blue-arsed fly having discovered that her poison has gone missing. Sometimes, truth is stranger than fiction - and other times, period dramas take a little artistic license . And Louis weeps. And I do not regret it for an instant. Like he is trying to justify himself. He certainly is darker, more angry and violent than he was in real life. Pity that they made his character too emo, too frustrated and angry with the world, when he actually was full of joie de vivre, always smiling, always chattering, always ready to find the good in every person and every sistuation. Okay, is Louvois just being a dick? We see a lovely shot of Versailles outside, then cut to the Kings bedchamber, where the flowers and hedges are neatly arranged around to the bed. He rolls in bed, his cheek on a bloodied pillow, and suddenly wakes, realises what it is and follows the trail to Louis bedchamber. Louis looks mega pissed. Why is this so? And dragging Effiat into it too, for a) being a mignon loyal to the Chevalier, and b) his familys involvement in the Fronde, during Louis XIIIs reign. Philippe had a relationship with the man he loved while Henriette continued to sleep with the man she loved. King Louis XIV (George Blagden, left) and Henriette (Nomie Schmidt) arrive at "Versailles" in the Ovation series. And were never coming back. The Chevalier makes the sign of the Cross (like the good Catholic he is), sweeps a look across the room to Cassel? Then he calls for the Guards. No one leaves. We begged you. Noemie Schmidt: Yes, totally stuck. And it certainly wasnt the unwavering, steadfast, loyal or constant love that one would most want from a beloved one. Totally inappropriate time to mention it. Lot of time on my hands at the momentLULZ. Thanks for the correction I listened to that audio over and over but couldnt quite get the last word! But I said lets make it our fort. For once in your life you played along. Yes, it was the thinking of that time but wouldnt that make her a victim of circumstances, rather to be pitied than villified? The writers could have written a scenario where Henriette willingly sleeps with Phillipe to make Louis jealous and to provide in an explanation in the event she becomes pregnant. Louis: you are grieving. Philippe shakes his head: I grieve alone. Louis swallows then says: You will marry again. Philippe interjects: I simply want to live. Louis: It is your duty. Philippe hisses: I have had my fill of duty. You have never been a man whos true. And Louis is left in the salon, framed by the door, the guards, and looking incredibly vulnerable and alone. Im glad you like my reviews And I will most definitely continue on with reviewing S2. yet so satisfying to watch because.. yeah. But that was the thinking of the time. I neglected to include the phrase in my opinion. Your email address will not be published. She is in such a tizzy that she barely gives her daughter, Sophie, the. In perfect sync. How accurate is Netflix Versailles? He remembers too. Anyway, back to the story. Hi Theresa, and thanks for your comment. Off they stride with purpose and a couple of guards, through the gorgeous corridors (shot in the gorgeous Vaux Le Vicomte) and with ominous background music to set the mood. After Philippe shoots a couple rounds into the air he tells Louie, Brother we must go, the wolves will come back and there will be more. Did you have the same thought as I; that while in the moment the characters are talking about the actual wolves, the underlying message is about Louis and the traitors in his midst, starting with Moncourt. Since the first stone was laid in this expansion. HOW DID THEY DO THAT SO PERFECTLY??? Is anyone else hoping Fabien takes her under his wing? So Louis sequesters the palace. From the bed, Henriette says pitifully, Dont leave me and straight away, we know who that is aimed at. Also, his relationship with his brother was much less complicated than we see in this show, Philippe was a very simple person when it came to feelings, he was affectionate and friendly. The moment stretches and Claudine shakes her head: she will not survive the poison. We see a shot of Philippe and Louis: Philippe is stunned and mega sad. By this stage both Henriette and Marie Thrse of Spain now knew what it felt like to be jilted and cast aside in your loved ones affections by another attractive court lady. And stunned when Louis says shes in his bedchamber. Therefore, my thoughts are strictly about the characters. Panoramica: After crushing the Protestants and thwarted Leto, Louis feels invincible. Basically he can do what he wants, but she is not allowed to. It was generally believed that she had been poisoned by one of her husband's friends, but historians have concluded that she died of natural causes, perhaps of a ruptured appendix. And so was she. He goes on to make threats and trouble for her. In the end though, nobody was actually tortured or executed on charges of killing her. Im no Henriette fan, but Im so sorry, no, Philippe did not win the victim sweepstakes in that marriage. did the male medicin drink the vial of poison accidentally or on purpose? She is not indulgent in it. Required fields are marked *. There are times when I will shout (in my head), Just leave this place and run back to England.. I guess in summary, I saw more nuance and non-verbal cues with Philippe that made him a more sympathetic character. Point 8: Again, refer to comments on Henriettes lack of power as a woman and as a subject of the king to say no to said king. For the record, I dont think Henriette would actually like to see Philippe die, but she would like to be shot of him. That doesnt mean a woman would feel affection for her abuser. John Clare 191 subscribers Henrietta of England, Duchess of Orlans rushes to Louis XIV's chambers after being poisoned. Cats with nine lives. It is my experience that it is only those closest to a man that can inflict the greatest pain. We are back at the sickbed, where Henriette sleeps and Montespan silently weeps at the bed. I did have a thought, though, why the writers didnt build up to her being the young version of one of Louis mistresses, he had so many. The three remaining lived to be 59, 49 and 68. Henriette says to Philippe: Im sorry. Philippes distress is written all over his face, while Louis just looks angry, eyes flinty, mouth flat, jaw clenched. Do you even think hed allow her to end things? Dieu. again, another shagging time between Henriette and Louis, when Louis friends have been murdered and she mentions the fact she was jealous of the dead woman. Only honestly acknowledging that Philippes glorious death in battlesomething that would not displease Philippe, himselfwouldnt necessarily break her heart. And suddenly Marchal has his ah-HA moment. I am sobbing. Claudine confirms poison and Louis huddles with his advisors: he wants to know if any English are at court. I cannot even imagine his reasoning for this, however I do know historically, Henriette desperately did want to be Queen of France, as did her mother want it, but at the time, she didnt have the pedigree, being the sister to Englands heir who wasnt even on the throne at the time. We must get the king and the queen and yourself to safety at once. And the penny drops for Bontemps, his look of dismay so clear. You! He points and accusing finger. People lived for it, and reputations and lives could be ruined with one well-placed rumour.

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